tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post8835470732233090881..comments2023-12-24T20:48:11.634+00:00Comments on Opinionated Vicar: God still Guides, but Guides don't GodDavid Keenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-87925186591708046462013-06-20T08:12:44.318+01:002013-06-20T08:12:44.318+01:00Thanks Andy - what you say about the Queen is inte...Thanks Andy - what you say about the Queen is interesting, CofE clergy have the same clause about heirs and successors. <br /><br />Your last question is a really good one, and todays diary isn't going to let me give a long answer! The more I think about it, the more I'm struck by the fact that the Guides want to do this at all. They aren't a Christian organisation (weren't beforeDavid Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-17271800599880980932013-06-20T07:23:44.231+01:002013-06-20T07:23:44.231+01:00Thanks for your reply, I'm glad that you don&#...Thanks for your reply, I'm glad that you don't feel that atheist guides should have to leave the Guides. As a republican, I've never had a problem with the Queen part of any oath. The promise is made to serve the office of Head of State rather than the particular person occupying that position. That's made more explicit in the more grown-up oaths for army, parliament and the Andy DMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03762009221456303236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-42077812309281582912013-06-19T23:02:26.307+01:002013-06-19T23:02:26.307+01:00I think I'm trying to tease out what it means ...I think I'm trying to tease out what it means to move from a promise which is focused on duty to others (God, queen, country, Guide law) to one which tries to blend some of that idea of duty with the subjective 'be true to myself'. I also wonder whether there's a place for spiritual development to happen that's neutral as to whether any particular spiritual tradition is rightDavid Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-80434384140383331362013-06-19T21:24:40.837+01:002013-06-19T21:24:40.837+01:00I think that you're missing the obey the Guide...I think that you're missing the obey the Guide Law bit of the promise. <br /><br />A Guide is honest, reliable and can be trusted.<br />A Guide is helpful and uses her time and abilities wisely.<br />A Guide faces challenges and learns from her experiences.<br />A Guide is a good friend and a sister to all Guides.<br />A Guide is polite and considerate.<br />A Guide respects all living Andy DMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03762009221456303236noreply@blogger.com