tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post8356180416725564718..comments2023-12-24T20:48:11.634+00:00Comments on Opinionated Vicar: Church Growth and the CofE: the role of the national church. David Keenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-45872529659248158662013-06-09T04:28:31.144+01:002013-06-09T04:28:31.144+01:00Young people are not believing because society is ...Young people are not believing because society is growing out of it. Nobody believes in Thor or Zeus anymore, Christianity is going the same way. Religion is an outdated concept. With the rise of the internet, young people have had access to a wide range of beliefs and views, it is no longer the case that children grow up believing just because their parents are Christian and they don't know Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-76727246125882178752013-05-25T23:39:55.155+01:002013-05-25T23:39:55.155+01:00It would be interesting to know how Rachel Jordan ...It would be interesting to know how Rachel Jordan defined "mission" for the purpose of her survey. If basic tasks like visiting parishioners on spec (i.e., the sort of door knocking that was expected of many clergy, certainly before the last war), count as mission, then the fact that it is second to bottom in their list of priorities is a major scandal and goes to the heart of the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-86850587997408832802013-05-25T13:34:48.826+01:002013-05-25T13:34:48.826+01:00Anon- the facts don't spoil the argument, I ju...Anon- the facts don't spoil the argument, I just wonder if we simply look at the numbers in church schools and think 'job done'. If education is integrated into local mission, as it sounds like it's done in Salisbury, then that can only be a good thing. I'm not sure it always is.David Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-48616101810900321562013-05-25T12:35:58.121+01:002013-05-25T12:35:58.121+01:00It is fun to spoil a good argument with facts, but...It is fun to spoil a good argument with facts, but here goes... In two large deaneries in Salisbury Diocese (both growing; three out of our 19 grow)we have related many demographic metrics to our attendance data. We "reach" 9 times as many children through our church schools as through our churches. In many of these schools they enjoy an actual experience of Christian living rather thanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-54463910217034675132013-05-25T09:07:58.870+01:002013-05-25T09:07:58.870+01:00David, thanks for all these recent posts and your ...David, thanks for all these recent posts and your summaries. They have helped my thinking. I don't want to give up on trying to challenge the present culture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com