tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post2780560698850189294..comments2023-12-24T20:48:11.634+00:00Comments on Opinionated Vicar: Rowan Williams on BlasphemyDavid Keenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-92042235576083565552008-02-01T09:08:00.000+00:002008-02-01T09:08:00.000+00:00Bishop Nazir-Ali insists that we live in a Christi...Bishop Nazir-Ali insists that we live in a Christian society, but we have not for a very long time. It is like saying that we live in a Devil Worshipping society because millions of children dress up like witches every year.<BR/><BR/>We clearly live in a post-christian society. Most people who are not active members of another faith have no understanding of Christianity at all. To pretend Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02102663397567562979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-45745884603816160962008-02-01T05:50:00.000+00:002008-02-01T05:50:00.000+00:00David, JoeThere seems to me to be an interesting c...David, Joe<BR/><BR/>There seems to me to be an interesting contrast between:<BR/><BR/>David talking about "worldviews" based on *content* - belief / doctrine / assumptions (creeds, if you will).<BR/><BR/>Joe talking about what I would call *approach* - i.e., "top-down" ('Church') and "bottom-up" ('logical'/'biblical').<BR/><BR/>Matt WAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-74884585961824670202008-01-31T22:12:00.000+00:002008-01-31T22:12:00.000+00:00JoeI'm trying to live in the real world - we are n...Joe<BR/><BR/>I'm trying to live in the real world - we are not in New Testament times, we're just coming out of many centuries of Christendom thinking and institutions in the UK, and some of those, just some, might be worth preserving. Michael Nazir-Ali argues much more strongly for the preservation of Christendom than I would (see Ruth Gledhills blog today). I'm not actually trying to state a David Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-65065327810205020252008-01-31T19:37:00.000+00:002008-01-31T19:37:00.000+00:00Some good points here. I think your analysis of R...Some good points here. I think your analysis of Rowan William's position is correct, if I'm reading his words correctly.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, I think you're talking total hogwash. If there are two worldviews, the one is a largely illogical and enforced Church (not a Christian) worldview and the other is a largely logical worldview. <BR/><BR/>A Church worldview argues from the position of Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02102663397567562979noreply@blogger.com