tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post2649264941101905137..comments2023-12-24T20:48:11.634+00:00Comments on Opinionated Vicar: Religious AtheismDavid Keenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-46496529451867776942010-06-10T08:55:50.908+01:002010-06-10T08:55:50.908+01:00I mean, sometimes the gap is between us is so wide...I mean, sometimes the gap is between us is so wide. Really, cricket? Even God belief is more rational than following cricket. There's no hope for reconciliation.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11039815765507965606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-20072892487550037612010-06-10T08:53:10.921+01:002010-06-10T08:53:10.921+01:00cooperation - not easy when we disagree on core is...cooperation - not easy when we disagree on core issues that are so embedded that one or both can't move. Debate is inevitable. Sometimes shock tactics are required to overcome complacency. There's a certain complacency, finality (or so they think) to the Van Til adheerents, that isn't there with others, say Clark.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11039815765507965606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-45950560461311234252010-06-09T21:00:25.760+01:002010-06-09T21:00:25.760+01:00Jolly good. So long as I'm Colin Firth of cour...Jolly good. So long as I'm Colin Firth of course. Well done in the cricket by the way.. did you play against Salisbury?Lesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17228191583982936566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-24041731234662187232010-06-09T20:49:16.949+01:002010-06-09T20:49:16.949+01:00Don't mind me! Reminds me of that scene in Bri...Don't mind me! Reminds me of that scene in Bridget Jones where Hugh Grant and Colin Firth fight in the street, then the cafe, then the street again. Carry on folks, it makes a change to have commenters arguing with each other rather than with me ;-)David Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-11820461135780793552010-06-09T20:47:31.063+01:002010-06-09T20:47:31.063+01:00if i think like this, i think that i am not prepar...if i think like this, i think that i am not prepared for this position yet. i have to be more strong after this position.Pagan Symbolshttp://www.ancient-symbols.com/pagan_symbols.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-66060680176342219522010-06-09T20:30:09.789+01:002010-06-09T20:30:09.789+01:00Hi Ron
Blimey, we are arguing on someone else'...Hi Ron<br /><br />Blimey, we are arguing on someone else's blog now! (oops that probably had something to do with me sending you the link).<br /><br />Payback is never good is it? I like the Gandhi quote that an eye for an eye makes the whole word blind. It frustrates me slightly that you are unwilling to criticise those who behave in this manner who are in the atheist camp, but no doubt you Lesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17228191583982936566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-25075726495959383292010-06-09T15:29:38.598+01:002010-06-09T15:29:38.598+01:00Hi Lesley,
I think many US atheists in particular...Hi Lesley,<br /><br />I think many US atheists in particular are so used to all the Hell fire and Damnation being thrown at them by the religious right, it's a bit of payback. Many UK atheists will enjoy just as much self-deprecating humour as mockery of antagonists.<br /><br />But in some of the online videos the audiences are obviously partisan and the performers will often play to the Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11039815765507965606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-4101449972184506152010-06-09T12:55:25.634+01:002010-06-09T12:55:25.634+01:00Hi All
Thanks Ron - I'll take that as a compl...Hi All<br /><br />Thanks Ron - I'll take that as a compliment :)<br /><br />I agree with David. To an outsider it really does feel like a subculture, and the other thing is I know you think us people of faith are too easily offended, and I will put my hands up to that, but the level of mockery and scathing comments makes me feel excluded, and I want to be part of the debate because I too Lesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17228191583982936566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-51786664329699346722010-06-09T11:23:34.270+01:002010-06-09T11:23:34.270+01:00Hi dmk,
You're not the oddest vicar in this r...Hi dmk,<br /><br />You're not the <a href="http://revdlesley.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">oddest vicar in this respect</a> ( Lesley, you know what I mean :) )<br /><br />I think that they are fortuitously correct - not implying that stance has less merit wrt how to live life. I don't think it's mistaken as such, since that sort of implies there was intent to take an option.<br /><br Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11039815765507965606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-86096502919684705622010-06-09T09:45:01.048+01:002010-06-09T09:45:01.048+01:00Steve - I don't move very often in 'new at...Steve - I don't move very often in 'new atheist' circles, but if some of the better known websites/forums are anything to go by (Dawkinsnet, Pharyngula, Comment is Free) there is, to this outsider anyway, a bit of a subculture. His evidence, surely, is that he's experienced both church and a 'new atheist' gathering and spotted some strong similarities between the two. The David Keenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11872644403415655350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-52966327628505000082010-06-08T22:25:57.140+01:002010-06-08T22:25:57.140+01:00http://davidkeen.blogspot.com/2010/06/religious-at...http://davidkeen.blogspot.com/2010/06/religious-atheism.html<br /><br />I agree with Steve 100% on his comments; but that being so, I'm sure we'd disagree somewhere.<br /><br />I'd add the following.<br /><br />There is what I'd call a 'faith' atheist, who rejects religion for many reasons and denies there is a God, but not for what we might call 'reasoned' reasonsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11039815765507965606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35594660.post-52828637397606313962010-06-08T17:58:19.632+01:002010-06-08T17:58:19.632+01:00D, interesting article, confusing but interesting....D, interesting article, confusing but interesting.<br /><br />In answer to your question, I would say that you discover whether something is certain or not by examining the evidence and testing it; however even that understanding may be provisional until new evidence comes in, and so on.<br /><br />As for the author, I don't understand his point really, he seems to desire to equate "new Steve Borthwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13361597018502017407noreply@blogger.com